The importance of listening to our gut is something that is so often underestimated. But for Rebecca, after suffering from severe adult acne, finally listening to her gut was not only the beginning of her business but a new lease of life.

 

Highlights:

Biggest Challenges:

  • Adjusting to a new lifestyle and a very different schedule
  • Juggling a busy corporate job with studying in the transitional phase

Words of Wisdom:

Listen to your gut, it will always have your best interests at heart

  • Move more, get some fresh air!
  • Don’t worry or think about what other people are doing, focus on your mission
  • Keep your to-do list t no more than 3 things

Links and Tips

Full Interview

 

AO: Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of She Owns Success, today I am delighted to have the fabulous Rebecca Hirst of Glorious Wellness with us. Rebecca is a certified Integrative Nutrition and Health Coach. She Founded Glorious Wellness after discovering a passion for health while working in a highly successful corporate career at Coca-Cola. After experiencing her own challenges with allergies and food, Rebecca now helps her clients to feel gloriously well.

So Rebecca, thank you for joining us. I’ve just given our listeners a brief overview, but please tell us a bit more about you and your business.

 

RH: Thank you for having me on your Podcast. The best place to start is with spots. I was diagnosed with really bad adult acne in my 20’s, then again in my 30’s. The first time I was prescribed an anti-acne drug called Roaccutane which blitzes the spots, supposedly once and for all, but I’ll come on to that, but has some hideous side effects, nose bleeds, cracked lips, aching tendons, hot flush, you name it I had them all.

Having gone through that in my 20s, when my acne came back with a cheek covering vengeance in my early thirties I was absolutely gutted.  I had thought the Roaccutane would blitz the acne once and for all and it didn’t. So my dermatologist put me back on it to my nutter dismay.

I was 34 years old at the time, I had just started this big new job and I knew what I was in for. Can you imagine being stood in front of a room full of colleagues being worried about having a nose bleed, it’s not the way you want to start your new career at Coca-Cola.

 

AO: At least they would remember you

 

RH: For all the wrong reasons. So I had 6 months on the medication and at the same time I was referred to a nutritional therapist and thank god this happened. She helped me get literally under the skin of what had been happening. I had an undiagnosed allergy to cow’s milk for decades which is why even though we blitzed it with the anti-acne drug, it never went because I was having my daily late. In hindsight I sort of had a gut feeling about this. I never really liked milk, I would always had my late extra hot, extra shot, extra this extra that and was never really a big fan of cheeses or yogurts. So this got me on the journey to heeling my own skin and understanding my own body. But also on the journey to becoming a complete nutrition nerd. I found it fascinating and would never have thought what I was putting in my body could have such a profound effect on me. In hindsight I think, der, but I had to go on that journey to find this connection

So I went on to study it and in parallel I studied nutrition and that is how it all started.

AO: What an incredible start for you, I can only imagine how busy you must have been. We will get onto how you manage your time later. but that is an incredible story and one that I’m sure you now come across so regularly in your business and I can say personally that I have a dairy intolerance and I don’t now drink my latte’s but I used to even though it made my tummy a bit sore, I would think, I can put up with that because it tastes so great.

 

RH: And we are also taught a lot that is not true like everyone is the same and you need dairy for calcium and while this might be true for some people, it might not work for others. The one thing I now teach to my clients is called Bio Individuality. Which means no one size fits all, so it drives me crazy when I read about this quick fix diet we should all go on. The key thing for me and what I have learned is finding what fits each person.

 

AO: Very inspiring start. After you realised this was something you wanted to do, you mentioned that you then started studying this nutrition course. Tell us a bit more about that, how did you find this course as a lot of people want to do these things but they’re not sure where to begin, how did you find the right course and how did you manage everything?

 

RH: How did I manage everything… it was really hard. Day to day I was responsible for marketing Coca-Cola across 12 countries across Europe and the Nordics and during my commute and in my evenings and on my weekends, every Sunday was a study day. Even walking 20 minutes between journeys I was listening to lectures on my phone. So, I had to squeeze it into every nook and cranny. It was crazy and I’m not sure how I did it, but it was something that I was passionate about so I knew I had to find a way.

Someone said to me that I must have had cognitive dissonance because I was selling sugar everyday but learning about how to get people well. And I think I was for a while, my left brain was doing one thing and my right brain the other.

How I found the course- it found me. I saw it as a stepping stone from one world to another. I was getting on a flight from Melbourne to London and I picked up a book to read called I quit sugar by Sarah Wilson. She has heeled her autoimmune disease by having a relatively low sugar content in her diet. So I read this on the plane like the nutrition nerd that I am and on the back of the book it said that she was a graduate of the Institute of Integrative Nutrition.

When I got back to London I spoke to them to understand if I could fit the course in and around work and just decided I am doing it. For me it was one step on the journey. The qualification and the course I needed to get me from the job I was in- marketing and advertising in a big corporate – to doing what I really wanted to do which was helping busy women to get out of the doldrums, to feeling really good and gloriously well.

AO: I take away a couple of things from what you have said. Firstly the time challenge of doing this course on the side of this busy career, people always say they can’t do things for one reason or another but you have shown there that you really can if you really want to and the other thing you mentioned about Sarah Wilson’s book and stumbling on this course. If you want to do something, look at the people that are doing the thing that you are passionate about and look at how they got there, what they have done, what is the path they have trodden and follow in their footsteps.

 

RH: Yes definitely, at the time I was reading a couple of blogs including Sarah Wilson’s and they were and still are massive inspirations for me. Someone like Sarah Wilson for example had a career in journalism and stumbled into nutrition because she had issues with her own body. So it was so similar to me and I’ve almost mirrored what she has done. And this may sound quite flippant, which I don’t mean it to at all, but I found the studies quite easy in a way because I had already used myself as a guinea pig for 6 years and I had studied and read every book on nutrition even before I stared, just because I was that person reading those books on dietary theories. They were my bedtime reading! So by the time I came to studying this course I was really well immersed in that, just because I was into it and really geeky about that.

So, another thing I was say to people who are not sure what their next step will be, if they want to change career, is what is the thing you find really easy that not everyone does but that is your thing. Whether it’s writing or fashion or cooking or designing, there will be something you are really good at, that you can do almost like standing on your head. I found that with nutrition, the topic for me is one I just love, I do wish I had found this before I went to Uni but there we are.

 

AO: Exactly, so, tell us about the single most difficult challenge you have had to overcome in your entrepreneurial journey so far.

 

RH: The thing that was really hard was the transition from corporate life to me myself and I. I left coke in June and the first three or four months were the hardest. I had gone from a world where I got up at 06:00, I was on the 06:59 train, I was in the office by 08:00, I had a meeting in the morning, teams meetings, going to see agencies, travelling here and travelling there- to having no structural boundaries or pattern to my new working life.

I knew I had a lot to get done, when I started to set up Glorious Wellness there was a million things to do, but just that feeling of what do I do first, what is most important, how do I structure my time, how do I structure my day? I found that really challenging and for the first few months I had a lot of guilt around not being busy enough, not working hard enough in the day. It is crazy in hindsight because I was doing all the things I needed to do, but I had come from an environment where everything went a million miles an hour so taking a step back from that and thinking what do I need to focus on without having 20 meetings in my diary took me a while.

 

AO: How long did it take, when was it that you started to feel a bit more comfortable in your new lifestyle?

 

RH: I would say it took me a good 4 months. In the early days having left Coca-Cola, I had a few months intentionally planned to get my head straight in terms of what my brand was about what it looked like, who was my ideal client what was my charging structure. So I had a lot of things to work through and time and space to do that. So then when I was in launch mode it felt that I was into my stride a bit better.

 

AO: So walk us through what a great day is for you now that you have found your stride.

 

RH: That is a great question. I structure my week now rather than my day. My main client days are Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and my writing and marketing and social media and PR and recipe development and cookery days are Thursday and Fridays and maybe the weekends if I feel like it. So I tend to structure the week in that was so I know what needs to happen when and a really good day for me is one where I see clients. I see my new clients face to face to kick off and my long standing clients I have Skype or Zoom meetings with them. So a Monday and Tuesday will be full of those and I love that, it’s why I do what I do which is coaching amazing women and a few men. The other thing is a good day has to have fresh air in it, so one of the things I love to do is put on my wellies- I live out in the sticks – 40 minutes from London!

I put on my wellies, get out into the fields and just have an hours walk, it doesn’t matter whether it’s in the morning, at lunch or in the evening, a really great day is where I can put my wellies on and go out for an hour. I have found that is a really good way to get out of my head, to daydream, and it is when all of my genius brainwaves happen. When I am outside and there is greener and cows and stuff to look at. So my best days are my client days and getting out and about.

 

AO: That is great advice there getting out and about and seeing cows if you can. But those of us who don’t have the luxury of fields and cows, maybe some busses will do.

 

RH: I did get followed by a cow

AO: How far did it follow you!?

 

RH: I was walking across this field and as I am walking along the cows are in procession, like a little snake of cows and there is a bridge in the middle over a river. There are three concrete bricks across to the other side and a metal gate so the cows can’t get across it. I climbed up on the steps, over the two metal bars and I turned round to find a cow following me up the steps. It had its four big legs up on these steps and the next thing, it had one leg up, then the and this clever cow got all four legs over the gates and followed me.

 

AO: That cow obviously wanted to experience some glorious wellness! Goodness me. Cows aside, that is great advice to get out there because it is the best time for ideas to come into your head.

 

RH: Yes I get ideas on the sun lounger, sat in the car in traffic, when I’m going for a walk, it’s never when I’m sat at my desk trying to think of good idea. So it is good physiologically in terms of getting air in my lungs but also mentally, it’s just a great time to process stuff, it’s really useful.

I try to tell my clients you don’t have to be in a gym, it can be whatever makes you feel good when you move. Once of the pillars of Glorious Wellness in Move More.

 

AO: In addition to getting out and about, what other daily habits have you developed since starting Glorious Wellness that have been helpful in getting you towards success?

 

RH: They are pretty simple, and I try to keep them that way. What works well for me is getting up at the same time every day- for me now that is not super-duper early, when I was commuting into London I had to get up a lot earlier than was natural for me. I am not one of these people that is up at 5am and at my desk by 05:30. I get up at 07:00, I am usually at my desk by 08:00 and I work well first thing in the morning so if I have things to do that need focus I do them early. I found that I have to be really strict with keeping my to do list to 2 or 3 things that I need to do each day because if I have 15 things on the list and I end up doing one of them I feel really crappy about having not achieved everything. That is just crazy and too much pressure on myself so I just have the two absolute priorities and I have learned to get more ruthless about focusing on them.

Some weeks I am not doing as much on social media as I would ideally like from a marketing perspective. But then I think, if I am doing the big stuff that is helping my client or helping my business that will just have to wait. So, I am ruthless about then things that I do. The fresh air is also really important.

I have also found a way of eating for me to keep my energy consistent through the day. This has been really important. I always have a little bit of breakfast, I do drink coffee- I know some nutrition gurus would say that is not good but I love a couple of cups of coffee in the day, always in the morning before lunch and then for lunch, I break at about 13:00 and have some protein, some crunch and some green, something which is and will keep my blood sugar stable, it’s something I help my clients with- to not have a baguette but something more balanced. then just not flogging myself too hard and trying to do too much so if my energy is flagging at 5pm then that’s fine I’ve done a good days work!

 

AO: And if you have a list that is very focused and make sure you achieve those things, you’ll find that you actually achieve these things than having a big long list and being overwhelmed by it.  You end up flitting around these things and not feeling you have achieved anything.

 

RH: Yes, if you can apply some positive psychology to it, if you can think you have completed or even just progressed two things then that’s a great thing. That is a really lovely feeling rather than I have done not much from my massive list.

 

AO: I apply that same logic on an annual basis. Do you do that, do you have an annual plan where you say if nothing else, if I just do one or two things then I want to achieve this.

 

RH: Yes, I follow Brenden Buchard who talks about high performance and that is one of the things that he talks shares is his structure for the day. One of them is to plan exactly that your two or three priorities that you/ and I really want to move forwards and being clear at the beginning of the day, who you need to reach out to and make contact with and who are you waiting for information, a decision or communication from. Anything else, whether it’s ploughing through emails or responding to things on Facebook, they can wait because they are often other people’s agendas and not yours. So he always says you need to get out of reaction mode, do your stuff first, the things that you know are really important to your business and anything else set aside an hour and this is your time to respond to other people’s queries and emails.

 

AO: Definitely, how do you organise yourself then, how do you plan, do you have any tools that you can give us?

RH: A good note book! I do a couple of things, one of the things is taking time out to sit and strategize. For me, if I’m at my desk I am in doing mode, whereas if I take myself out to a beautiful cafe nearby- for example, I literally sit on the terrace if it is sunny and go through the next 3 months, 6 months, and 12 months. What are the ideas that I was to get down on paper? I found that doing this every couple of months is a really great way of keeping me focused and on track. I also have a beautiful notebook where I write down my one year, five year, ten year dreams and ambitions, how do I want to feel, where do I want to be going on holiday, how much time do I want to spend doing things that are not work – just writing it all down, down to how do I want to feel. So on the days when I am thinking about the hows and what’s, I can refer back to this, my life dreams.

I started doing this a good four years back, I went into a lulu lemon, before they had a shop, and it was a show room. I popped into the show room and their staff had done the same thing. It was not really hard goals or career or money, more this is how I want to be with my family, or my husband or this is where I want to be visiting, it was a more whole life approach. And this was on the walls around the cash register. So I did this after that, and now I do this regularly writing down my dreams and then also strategizing. Me my notebook and a cup of tea.

 

AO: That is a fantastic tip and something that many successful people have said that they do. Write it down and then reflecting on those things, whether that’s daily or weekly, however often, it’s just really critical that you do. Thank you, fantastic tip. So, we are going to shift now, we are going to fast forward. What exciting things are coming up for you in your business?

 

RH: The most exciting thing is that I was asked to do a TED Talk so that is really exciting! I am so so thrilled to be doing it. I never thought in a million years that I would be asked. Someone said to me you just have to get over yourself, so I’ll think about that when I’m up in front of hundreds of people.

Its part of the global conference for TEDx Women and my talk is all about trust your gut it never lies. It’s about the link between our guts and our brain but also how our guts behave from a physiological perspective but also that thing called gut instinct, how we can leverage that and learn to use it and the fact our gut instinct always has out best interests at heart so that is coming up soon.

 

AO: By the time this goes live and people are downloading it away, you will already have done your talk. So go out and watch it people, go out and check it out.

 

RH: Aside from that there are three parts to my business that I want to keep building, one is my speaking. I often speak about health related topics and I run regular Glorious Wellness workshops in an around Kent and London and I will keep building my group programme and my 1:1 coaching  because that is the reason I got into this was to help women feel gloriously well. Have brilliant energy, brilliant brain power and a happy healthy body because it’s a knock on effect when your body feels good your brain feels good and go out and kick ass. So I want to keep doing that and help as many women as I can.

 

AO: And the Tope Women Listening out there we all want to kick ass so definitely. Kick some butt! What is your ultimate vision for your business?

 

RH: It goes back to my why and my why is it really saddens me when I see amazing women who feel below par, who feel like a four out of 10, but not really knowing they feel like this until they are an 8 or a 9. I want to help these women and a handful of men because a handful of my clients are men, my vision is to reach as many of these busy women as I can. I say busy because coming from the corporate world many women have got children, families, husbands, grandparent’s finances, and aging parents to look after. There are all these things and I see that they often come bottom of their own priority list. So my job is to help them to get their own wellbeing and health further up the list so they do feel better than a four. That is why I do what I do.

 

AO: That is a wonderful, wonderful vision- to help, more women and men to stop feeling like a 4 and start feeling like an 8 out of 10.

 

RH: Yes, and some people ask why 8 why not a 10, in my experience, if we are striving for a 10, it does feel like that, like you are striving and you have to be all green, all raw all paleo and I firmly believe we have to be gentler with ourselves. If we are eating well in a way that fits our bodies most of the time, the old 80:20 rule sometimes its ok to have that cube of chocolate, or for me that coffee. So for me 9/10 is amazing.

 

AO: And if I am giving scores I always give 8 or 9 I never give a ten because there is always room for improvement!

 

RH: And if you were a 10 all the time you’re would be one of those annoying people bounding about!

AO: So we have learned so much from your journey so far but we are moving specifically onto words of wisdom now. What is the one thing that you wish someone had told you that you think every single entrepreneur should know?

 

RH: It is really hard to do one thing, I could give you a shopping list! Something that has worked really well for me that I didn’t have to pay attention to in my old corporate world is the power of network, collaboration, ally’s and the power of building relationships. I did all those things in my corporate job without thinking about it, I had amazing relationships with my suppliers and directors, but what I didn’t have wad a focus on networking in and of itself. I didn’t need to. Often people came knocking on my door because I worked at Coca-Cola so they were desperate to talk to me or show me things, and often I squirreled away and thought, I haven’t got time for that. Whereas as an entrepreneur, the more I have opened my doors to networking, locally and internationally to a degree, more doors have started to open. I firmly believe that entrepreneurs need to support each other because we are all trying to build something often by ourselves so the more we can build relationships, people are always happy to help. That is one of the most powerful things I have learned, the power networking and connecting.

Finally, don’t worry about what everyone else is doing just do your thing. Because I found it quite inspiring in one way but also like “Oh my goodness I’m way behind the curve” in other ways when I was paying too much attention on what others were doing.  But I found if I just focus on doing what my plan is, my vision and my dream things just flow so much easier and if then I can reach out to amazing people I connect with or have built relationships, like you and I we were introduced by Mel, Mel and I only met 6 months ago or so it’s crazy how these things come to be

So, being clear and connecting people who you think will have something valuable to share is also so important.

 

AO: We will, forgive you for giving us two when we did say just one,

 

RH: It was one and a bit

 

AO: A good bit, don’t compare yourself to other people there will always be people doing more than you or have been out there a lot more or have more followers. Whatever it is they will be out there and you need to be focused and just double down and do what you’re doing. Focus on your clients and the people you are service.

 

RH: Just do your thing. The thing at the end of your nose, your fingertips

AO: Exactly, and also not doing things alone in isolation, networking, having allies, that givers gain piece. If you put yourself out there for people they will be out there for you.

RH: Completely, the more you share and collaborate and connect – I have just read the Go Giver, it is a lovely parable, it is an easy read and a lovely story with many beautiful tips for entrepreneurs and anyone working with other people. Not just me and my numbers but the fact that the more you give the more you’ll get in return.

 

AO: So if nothing else, what would you like our listeners to take away from your journey today?

 

RH: The one thing I would love your listeners to take away is that it’s about guy instinct. The one thing someone said to me was how did you know to give up your successful corporate career, doing really well on this amazing trajectory, how did you know to change this for Glorious Wellness?  The answer is I didn’t, but 3 things became very clear to me and are so important if you are thinking about changing career even just a gentle career zig zag, not a full change. Number one is listen to those daydream moments about what you would love to do what excites you what your unique gift is. Secondly, don’t worry about the end game just take it one step at a time and the third thing is that it is easy to get bogged down by the weight of decisions that feel like they are really really important. Just make one decision and you’ll get feedback from the clients, from your customers, from the universe and if that wasn’t the right decision, it doesn’t matter, just cause correct and try something else. Listen, get feedback and try something else.

 

AO: Thank you so much Rebecca you have given us actionable advice and fantastic words of wisdom there to end with, with those fantastic  words of wisdom, we have come to the end of another inspiring journey. So tell us, where can we find you and how can we connect with you before we say goodbye for now.

 

RH: Through my website which is Glorious wellness .com. I am also on Facebook, YouTube and Instagram as glorious wellness.

AO: Thank you for being such a fantastic guest Rebecca

RH: My pleasure, Bye!